Should someone be violent even when imbued with the intention to protect? Should someone even protect with violence? Hadn't the aggressors also been victims at one point? By beating their asses, do I not add to their suffering? Why should multiple aggressors suffer so one victim may be free of suffering?
Paisios Papapavlou posted a status
Nov 19
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Should someone be violent even when imbued with the intention to protect?
Yes
Should someone even protect with violence?
Yes
Hadn't the aggressors also been victims at one point?
Yes
By beating their asses, do I not add to their suffering?
No
Why should multiple aggressors suffer so one victim may be free of suffering?
One thing I have noticed with all the people I meet is that they never take into account their Soul or have any understanding of Soul contracts or doing the right thing by their Soul. My brother had a good saying when it come to violence, that was “I am only giving them what they want” meaning if some one was about to be violent he was very happy to give them violence. I have never seen a man be so vicious when in a fight, he was very good at violence but he was also a very loving man. We are all faced with choices in life and most importantly doing the right thing by the Soul, most people only think about what is right by themselves or the Law. This is selfishness and a sin (harmful) to the Soul, Selflessness is a blessing to the Soul. Selflessness turns violence into “defensive use of force” which is a selfless act, when you defend others, fight to defend your home or yourself is not violence it is defense.
When it comes to suffering, that is something that is totally a freewill choice. I grow up in pain and suffering with great levels of hatred in my heart, that all changed the day I made a choice never to go there again and heal from my suffering. I now have pure love in my heart and that is the inner work I have spent 30 plus years doing, and still am doing as self mastery takes awhile lol.
Why should multiple aggressors suffer so one victim may be free of suffering? This question shows me that either you are heavily programmed and don’t know it and you are not aware of how to live by your Soul and do the right thing. Listening to the main stream anything will only lead you astray from your Soul, love and selflessness. The “WORD SPELLS” that this question holds is very devastating to the intellect, heart and confusing for those that are disconnected from their Soul. Which would lead them into thinking it has a valid point, the dark beings that created this English language has fooled us into thinking a double standard while leading us away from morality (doing the right thing).
So will I add to their suffering, not at all because the only one adding to their suffering is themselves, and the only person that can lead them out of suffering is themselves. Don’t fall for the SPELLing that is happening every day and listen to your heart for all life decisions, it will never lead you astray.
"By beating their asses, do I not add to their suffering?
No"
>Why?
"most people only think about what is right by themselves or the Law. This is selfishness and a sin (harmful) to the Soul, Selflessness is a blessing to the Soul."
>This presupposes way to many things for me to agree, you equate what is right by the Self as being selfish, meanwhile spiritual evolution would have your own sense of self change drastically to the point where the Self expands to represent other people's interests as if they were your own. You use the capital L on the word Law which further assumes a 'Cosmic Law' , which is itself another manifestation of seeing the universe as One.
I don't particularly have a problem with being violent, in fact I have both received and delivered violence, but you have to understand that people's psychological issues will not improve but only worsen if they are on the receiving end of getting their ass whooped. Not to say that there are legal reprecussions outside of the fear of getting jumped by multiple people at once when you try to defend a single victim. I've spoken with both victims and bullies in my life and neither of them ooze a desire to be beaten up. Why is the instinct immediately going to 'protect the victim and play the hero;? The bullies are struggling with their emotions way harder than the victim is.
So the question still stands,
Why should multiple aggressors suffer so one victim may be free of suffering?
I think you're projecting about the heavy programming thing, it is because I live tenderly with my soul that I have come to the point of wanting to defend others and considering the philosophical underpinnings of this action.
Yes it is true that people alone add to their suffering by their choices, but this is my world also, my fate brings me to act as well. But I feel conflicted, I feel bad for both the aggressor and victim equally. Also, by being violent you add to suffering no matter how you look at it.
In this world Mary, I find no strangers. Everyone is a loved one, so the question becomes, would you defend a stranger?
What if you misinterpret a situation due to personal biases? What if for them, this type of abuse is a daily ritual? Who are you to come against it? That's my issue to be honest, i am as empathetic towards the victim as I am to the aggressor.
Depending on how overt the abuse is, I would jump.