I really want to dig into this one. Let me know your feelings/perspectives on whatever this brings to mind.
For those who aren't familiar with this word that Merriam-Webster doesn't deem useful for English conversations anymore, it basically refers to entities that you and I or even we create, and are generally not "helpful" in the traditional sense. These negative entity attachments have many functions - specifically to cause disturbances, division, duality, disillusionment, dark thoughts, and other things that start with a "d". Although egregores can serve a positive role, for the purposes of this discussion, let's keep it to our perceived "problems". I'd like to include ACIM's (A Course in Miracles) "ego" in this too. After all we did create it albeit for a very specific function it would seem.
So, brush off your addictions, the skeletons in your closet, and your 300-year-old dictionaries so we can dive right in. I'm hoping we can all take away something positive from this since that is what we do.
The first question I'd like to put forth relates to why we create them? For the most part, we are not aware of them or that we are ultimately responsible for their existence. Some have very specific functions such as keeping us in the game. This is done through deception (see, more words that start with "d"!) and manipulation. The "ego" is an ever present force in our lives until it is relieved of its duties. And in what ways have you thought you have achieved this dissolution only to find it hiding out in another area of your mind? What functions does it serve other than to keep us blinded to who we are? Does it take on responsibilities of its own volition?
Next, is how do we get rid of them? In this I'd like to explore addictions, habits, the way we see things, the way we don't see things. What does this process of exploration look like to you? How does our "role" play into this? We are here to better understand ourselves as fractals of the Monad, so what are your experiences like? Also, I'd like to delve into why, sometimes, we cannot do what we want. Looking at my life, I would guess that I'm obsessed with this struggle I've experienced it so many times. What is the purpose behind failure? Is there a purpose? How many egregores does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Why are we so drawn to escape this world? My own hidey-hole is fully finished and furnished, and decorated lavishly. I just don't want to hang out there anymore. What does it mean to "overcome"? Is there anything really to overcome, or are we to accept everything and how does that play out in your role if you've gone down the "dark path" of acceptance? Seriously on that one, I came across a Facebook post directing people to punch anyone who tells you "You chose this," along with further hateful instructions that followed. This understanding came from such a level of repulsion it was all surface level. I attempted to deepen that if only to make myself feel better.
Briefly, I'd like to go a bit into this "dark path" concept. I came to an understanding of non-duality and how it is generally perceived, and realized how everyone has been programmed to equate it with full on evil. Go ahead and try to explain child trafficking in a non-dualistic way and see how that goes over. Of course you wouldn't try that because your neighbors would immediately produce torches and pitchforks and a long rope with your name on it, but it is definitely intriguing to me. I was tortured as a child but not in the "evil way" and no one blames anyone. Haha! Yeah ... we're so brainwashed.
So that is what I've come up with for a start to this journey into these mysterious entities. What are they, why are they, and what purpose do they really serve? Can we just walk away from those that we want to, or is there something else going on that we also planned? I'm in a state of limbo currently, and I don't have a clue about anything right now. I guess I've been following that which leads me without question for a while. I've been taking alchemy for two years now, doing training exercises, reprogramming myself, unlearning everything I can and I still don't feel like I'm in control. What kind of egregore did I create? I can't even faze it - not one bit. Progress yes; extrication no. What kind of journey did I sign up for? Is this reality? What is control? Kinda spooky.
There. This should be an easy one. Let's hear the stories!
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Boy oh boy, Michael. I wonder if we can take this and do one question or topic at a time. Can you break it down that way just in replies?
Yeah, I see what you mean. When I wrote this, it was all a singular topic in my mind with all the questions that sprang from it. Now it looks like no one knows how to respond because it is not a simple topic and was about to get more convoluted with an additional perspecetive from me that I haven't published. I'll try to simplify it in my mind but we might just have to delete and start over. I'm not sure if breaking it down will help - though I'm only now starting to think about it so I don't really know. Ha!
There's a ton of great conversation pieces in there, so please let's just break it down into bite-sized chunks and run through it.
I think this needs to be rewritten after looking at it several times. I've got a copy on my hard drive so there won't be any issues if it is deleted. Apparently, I pressed the "dump everything" button in my brain and looking at the last sentence of it, I knew exactly what I had done. Hehe.
As per JD's advice, I will start the ball rolling with the first topic. What are the different reasons we might create an egregore and what purpose does each serve? Is the egregore's "script" fundamentally simple or can it appear to break free from its percieved simplicity. I believe in the latter. I think the key to a good script lies in its unexpectedness.
Well I mean I intentionally created a young white dragon to play with..but it was just a fun Ala Pete's dragon egeregore. I have also created egegores to help me with things but I also carefully put them back to dust when I was done and thanked them for thier services as well
I love that movie! It would be fun if all egregores were like that. It is great that you are a responsible egregore creator. If I were an egregore (well technically I might be), I would be honored to have you as my human.
Heyo,
I have been into esoteric circles for a while and I have understood the reality of egregores quite early due to my home country's proximity to Isreal, the house of Kaballah practises and the like.
I'm not going to be able to answer all of the questions posed, they are rather disconnected to address as a whole too.
Egregores are a force of nature, they are in a way, the interaction of our beingnesses in a common noetical ground, the dimension where everything is more openly an idea. Imagine me and you sitting crosslegged in the clouds right now, you have your own and I have mine, the hum of the planet can be heard to resonate and the air carries humidity and although we're above the clouds, we feel not scared, as if the clouds were the chairs where we can relax these bodies we project to be our selfhood. The dimension of mind where you can understand these visions is an elemental being created by my own mental energy that carries my meaning, my vibe, my oomph and voice and power across all the way to you, dearest reader. Do you feel me behind these words? That's because everything about me is encoded in this special elemental I am creating in this reply. The elemental itself is attracted to you, some parts of my words trigger a bigger response precisely because my elemental and your self-hood are more alike in vibrational frequency in some areas. This elemental exists within a bigger field of knowledge, that of the blue emerald academy. The blue emerald website in this case, is an egregore. It connects us all, the more intuitive among us can have precognition that someone is interacting with their elementals and is about to answer. I feel that someone feels this as I am doing it. The egregore, being the sum of our group elementals has incredibly powerful effects. In fact, religions are a hige egregore that even manifests miracles, it acts as fodder for the religion-believer to enact upon the world, His true bidding under the veil of God's will.
We are immersed in all sorts of egregores and prevalent elementals reach my consciousness and manifest in my life in many ways, like news about science, news about family, news about my country and so on and so on. There is even the planetary egregore we call the global unconscious in popular media. I feel it very intensely and oddly enough, the people who are mostly in charge feel us too, those of us who are aware and resistant to mental manipulation. Through the egregore carried by the Kabbalists - because I was studying the Kaballah preliminarily, I was found and they used to visit me in dreams, people whom I have never seen in my life were acutely aware of my existence and even quoted me saying something.Egregores are especially interesting for the people in charge mind you, for surveilance, understanding of emotional states of nations and so on and so forth.
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Elementals and egregores like them are not able to be destroyed, you can however, change your personal vibe in a way so that the elementals are not attracted to you. You will belong in some egregore in one or another way, like for example, that of ACIM. You say you want to explore addictions, habits, but you also say you are drawn inwards in the safety of your home, I say, live it. Go out to bars, talk with the homeless, you want to find the dark? You only merely need to desire it truly, you WILL get what you want.
I don't know our role to be honest. I could kinda play all roles I see around me, you want me to be gay?a killer?an inkeeper?a motorcyclist? an african american? No problem to be honest, they seem quite engaging roles, however, I understand why some roles are not conducive to my purposes, which is... to live joyously, neither happy nor sad, but joyously. I think what draws us to awakening is something You decided, much like how You decide as Absolute Infinite Beingness to experience being every single being in all the universes.
I don't think you ought to overcome anything, your philosophy just grows and you are able to understand more and more things in life and by the merit of your understanding over the mental workings of another beingness, you are above it, for you can understand it but it cannot understand you. This is where the whole hierarchy of consciousness thing begun, non-reciprocal understanding.
Egregores can appear to be conscious and intelligent yes as they carry the information of every being they were able to interact with at a particular point in linear time BUT, they are not incarnating souls, they are an aspect of us, we are grander than them. In fact... they are our tools.
Every action, every motion, everything thought, even the flick of your eyes to focus on these letters are an elemental (the english language elemental- we can call it egregore if you like), your eyes following the ass of a beautiful lady, that's an elemental, everything produces an elemental. We even have 'Masculinity' egregores composed by the elementals of every male in existence. You wanna learn to dance? You absorb the elementals of the dancing team around you, then you watch a video, the egregore is fed and will give you more and more to perpetuate you into existing within it - becoming a better dancer. Everything you do pertaining to dance, will advance the egregore and contribute enegetically to its ''vibrational signature''.
Tl;dr:
You know how you can feel what to say in a group of stranger? The inherent danger when around wounded people? How about knowing how to adress your parents? Even this website, we have a level of social convention that's considered appropriate in Blue Emerald, this, when seen in the higher densities called the 'noetical dimension', is the egregore of the Blue Emerald. Focus on it enough and it will continue to manifest in your thoughts, when someone interacts with the egregore, you will feel it also, you will be notified, you will be compelled to look for replies. You belong and feed many egregores, along with every other beingness in the universe, the egregore of being male, the egregore of ACIM, the egregore of being human, American, so on and so forth...
Paisios, that is a great introduction to this topic. I had the feeling this discussion might create an egregore. Very cool.
"You know how you can feel what to say in a group of stranger? The inherent danger when around wounded people? How about knowing how to adress your parents?"
So what about being neurodiverse / autistic / adhd / etc, and having to consciously sort / ground through the words to use to find the right script in a given social situation? (Or shut down and become nonverbal)
How does being connected to / part of a group egregore work then?
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